• pineapple@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    The enshitification is real. Thank goodness it’s federated, just use a different instance or self-host your own.

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      Well, that’s literally the point - the majority of costs for them are hosting related, so they’re trying to push people to use their own or other servers, which is overall better for the health of the federated network.

      It’s not enshittification if you were never paying for it/supporting in the first place, lol.

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        It’s not enshittification if you were never paying for it

        Cf. every free service whose enshittification was called enshittification, starting with Reddit.

        But I agree this is not enshittification. It’s grasping at straws.

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          They’re telling you to pay or leave. I just don’t get why you think it should be free - who is paying for it?

          Because matrix is an open ecosystem, most companies that use it just deploy a server and then contribute nothing back to the spec (be it funding or code). Individuals seem to be in the same boat.

          Like, I’m not trying to be dense, here - what is the correct path? Where is this money supposed to come from? (I’m genuinely not trying to incite an argument with this comment; I’m just passionate about the Matrix spec and am frustrated with the responses to this post)

          And please don’t give me the “user donations will be enough” drivel - I’ve been donating (a small amount) to the matrix foundation for years, even though I run my own server and don’t rely on them for any infra, and know quite well how many users are with me in the lowest tier of contributors room. Spoiler: it’s less than 300.

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        3 days ago

        I get your point. It would be better to save the money and use it for actually developing the platform because it needs to be worked on.

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      3 days ago

      or alternatively, stop pretending Matrix is any good and trying to hang on until they make it good (2030? 2035? ever???) and use something which actually works.

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        3 days ago

        Matrix is actually really good. It’s my only hope for using iMessages in a cross platform manner, I can self-host my own iMessages bridge.

        Since most of my friends use iMessages and they are not super willing to change.

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        3 days ago

        Well… Either matrix or simplex or signal or corpo spyware. Your choice but at some point the pleb will pay or be enslaved

        Or both 🤡