• Grendel84?@tiny.tilde.website
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    4 hours ago

    @SpaceCowboy @JackbyDev

    In a legal context there’s also the concept of a “reasonable expectation of privacy”. The computer abuse and fraud act defines hacking as accessing data or systems you are not authorized to access.

    A better analogy is putting your journal in a public library and getting mad when somone reads it.

    I’m not saying what these ass holes did was right, I’m saying that the company weakened their legal position by not protecting the data.

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      Terrible analogy. You have permission to read books in a library.

      Forgetting to lock your door isn’t granting permission to people enter your house, and it doesn’t grant people permission to take your valuables. It may be neglectful to leave your door unlocked, but it doesn’t imply granting permission to enter your house.

      Same goes with computer security. Leaving your computer insecure may be neglectful, but it does not imply someone has permission to take your data.

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      A better analogy is putting your journal in a public library and getting mad when someone reads it.

      Good analogy indeed. I’d go one step further and add: it’s like promising others you’ll keep their diary safe, then putting it in a public library, to then get mad when someone reads it.

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        @iii

        Yeah the internet by design is a public space, and we must be responsible and treat it as such when handling sensative data.

        Again, it was very wrong for people to take that data and especially to post like that.

        The company also has to do their part and produce at least some kind of barrier to the data.

        Even using UUIDs and making sure the data wasn’t query-able would have been something.

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          The web is a public space by design. The internet? I don’t think you can make that case well. Https and all that. Private infra abounds.