I think it’s the other way around. See, hosting a service on the Internet carries some obligations.
The state treats them so that those are much easier to fulfill for these platforms.
The state gives them very expensive projects.
The state kills Aaron Schwartz, purely coincidentally also the author of the RSS standard. That thing that comes the closest to a uniform way of aggregating the Web, which would kill a lot of what platforms provide.
The state makes some of their products standard for the state, making those commercial things necessary to interact with the state.
So, the state does a lot to give them that monopoly in the first place.
yes that’s precisely what i implied, because they control it in the first place. companies like amazon are more powerful than nation states, and they exercise that power.
if they make a big mistake or want labour law adjusted, they can get the state to coddle them, because they privately control, say, the entire food supply (ie the means of production) without which the state is meaningless.
this has been the capitalist state’s modus operandi for more than 100-200 years. and the oligarch’s power precede it, they shaped it that way back then.
aaron schwartz was literally just a dude, not remotely comparable to oligarchs.
yes that’s precisely what i implied, because they control it in the first place. companies like amazon are more powerful than nation states, and they exercise that power.
And I’m trying to say that the state helping them was first.
this has been the capitalist state’s modus operandi for more than 100-200 years. and the oligarch’s power precede it, they shaped it that way back then.
Not really. Every month, year, decade is different.
aaron schwartz was literally just a dude, not remotely comparable to oligarchs.
He had the right ideas of how to solve one particular industry which is the spearhead of barbarism. And he somehow committed suicide in jail.
the oligarchy as it currently stands precedes the capitalist state as we know it today. some of them even come from the very same families, like they are fucking kings (they are)
and yes, despite capitalism having changed over time, its basic power structures have remained the same for the last century or more.
and that’s nothing, if you consider feudalism lasted even longer while also changing but keeping more or less the same types of power structures. don’t quote me on feudalism though.
the oligarchy as it currently stands precedes the capitalist state as we know it today. some of them even come from the very same families, like they are fucking kings (they are)
I mean, these are terms with vague borders - oligarchy, feudalism, capitalism …
About same families - I guess in France/Italy/Germany or in Japan maybe.
and that’s nothing, if you consider feudalism lasted even longer
Same problem. Arguably in Britain a lot of it still lasts, and in Germany.
OK. So my point was specifically about modern regress and tech corporations. Not all of history.
oligarchy are the elites, or the bourgeois, or “they”. ill admit different people have different meanings for it, but i mean specifically in the marxist sense. ill be more specific and clarify its the bourgeois so were on the same page.
capitalism is not vague at all though. is the political-economic system we live under, it has been pretty standardized between countries for a while. with the washington consensus and all.
its almost like their monopoly on the means of production made them powerful and they used that power to control the state. 🤔
I think it’s the other way around. See, hosting a service on the Internet carries some obligations.
The state treats them so that those are much easier to fulfill for these platforms.
The state gives them very expensive projects.
The state kills Aaron Schwartz, purely coincidentally also the author of the RSS standard. That thing that comes the closest to a uniform way of aggregating the Web, which would kill a lot of what platforms provide.
The state makes some of their products standard for the state, making those commercial things necessary to interact with the state.
So, the state does a lot to give them that monopoly in the first place.
yes that’s precisely what i implied, because they control it in the first place. companies like amazon are more powerful than nation states, and they exercise that power.
if they make a big mistake or want labour law adjusted, they can get the state to coddle them, because they privately control, say, the entire food supply (ie the means of production) without which the state is meaningless.
this has been the capitalist state’s modus operandi for more than 100-200 years. and the oligarch’s power precede it, they shaped it that way back then.
aaron schwartz was literally just a dude, not remotely comparable to oligarchs.
And I’m trying to say that the state helping them was first.
Not really. Every month, year, decade is different.
He had the right ideas of how to solve one particular industry which is the spearhead of barbarism. And he somehow committed suicide in jail.
the oligarchy as it currently stands precedes the capitalist state as we know it today. some of them even come from the very same families, like they are fucking kings (they are)
and yes, despite capitalism having changed over time, its basic power structures have remained the same for the last century or more.
and that’s nothing, if you consider feudalism lasted even longer while also changing but keeping more or less the same types of power structures. don’t quote me on feudalism though.
I mean, these are terms with vague borders - oligarchy, feudalism, capitalism …
About same families - I guess in France/Italy/Germany or in Japan maybe.
Same problem. Arguably in Britain a lot of it still lasts, and in Germany.
OK. So my point was specifically about modern regress and tech corporations. Not all of history.
oligarchy are the elites, or the bourgeois, or “they”. ill admit different people have different meanings for it, but i mean specifically in the marxist sense. ill be more specific and clarify its the bourgeois so were on the same page.
capitalism is not vague at all though. is the political-economic system we live under, it has been pretty standardized between countries for a while. with the washington consensus and all.