Tesla has consistently exaggerated the driving range of its electric vehicles, reportedly leading car owners to think something was broken when actual driving range was much lower than advertised. When these owners scheduled service appointments to fix the problem, Tesla canceled the appointments because there was no way to improve the actual distance Tesla cars could drive between charges, according to an investigation by Reuters.

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    Ok, but there are always exceptions. You can’t use those as an argument. There are also some regions where it takes hours to stand in line for gas. Doesn’t mean that is the average and that I should go around teling people it is.

    EV charging in EU (!) is on average (!!) almost identical to gas cars currently especially the newer models with 300KWh charging capabilities. I think it will take you less time to charge those than gas even.

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      For how long have we been building gas stations compared to chargers?

      Of course charging will become faster over time and maybe even overtake the gasoline cars. What will do this to batteries though? Despite development, super fast charging still kills the battery more than slow charging and the loss of performance would be felt during winter.

      But yes, once electric cars have the same range and can be charged as fast as gasoline cars can be fille, the main drawback will be away. That does not mean I will buy one, maybe just for a city and if I have enough money not to care that much about 20k.

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        1 year ago

        Respect your personal choice. As long as it’s not discussed as “EV is only good for city trips”. I understand your personal situation and preference, but the facts are that that is an outdated view for many situations.

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          I mean today it’s still only for city purposes 🤷 Maybe in the future when the situation improves, it will be usable on sth else, as well.

          Still I don’t understand why the resources aren’t rather put to development of synthetic fuels.

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            I’ll just bluntly keep repeating myself just like you are repeating yourself (even after being presented with experiences talking about the opposite) -> EV is not for city purposes only.

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              I will end it here as I refuse to repeating the same relevant points over and over again.

              EVs, at least where I live, cannot be taken for longer trips.

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                Me (and others) are trying to explain to you that your personal “experience” is not grounds to make statements like you are making (e.g. EVs are only for small trips). The fact that you choose to ignore all that and focus only on your own (limited) experience is not my fault.

                Limiting it to “in my area” it would be absolutely fine and right, but you are incorrectly telling people like it is not ready for prime time yet everywhere, when it clearly is.

                So if you let that go, there would be no need to keep repeating yourself ;) but you keep opening a can of worms if each reply contains a blanket statement.

                I’ll let it go, sorry for hammering on about it.

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                  Guys, it’s fine that you like them, feel free to use them.

                  On the other hand, you cannot argue against the facts that these cars explode from time to time, the infrastructure for them is nowhere near as good as for regular cars and that charging and range are worse. So no, they are far from ready.

                  To me it seems like electric cars are meant to be a replacement for gasoline cars, yet they are worse almost at everything (today). They are basically a solution to a non-existent problem.

                  Some argue they are more ecological, yet this is debatable. I don’t know but explosions don’t seem too ecological to me and the fact you can throw out a huge battery cell approximately every 8 years does not seem ecological either. Especially when we add the cost of the battery replacement, it does not make sense to replace it. Economically, it’s a better decision to just buy a new car, which again creates additional waste… EDIT: If you need to push an alternative fuel through, I see more potential in hydrogen. The infrastructure is even worse though :/