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    This is such embarrassing fantasy that it’s almost hard to believe that real people believe it, but traitor lunatics thrive on nonsense. This Epstein list is like the pizza parlor conspiracy.

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      Funny, I thought that’s what they believed, too. Now, suddenly they seem to think it’s best to leave the global pedophile cabal in power.

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    That’s not collapse, that’s just justice. That’s people being held accountable for their crimes. Society is still going to function fine without them, their roles, if they even have any, will just be taken over by the next person in the command structure.

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      Or, better yet, we (as in society as a whole) can take the opportunity of clearing house to restructure our government (and, by extension, economic) systems to one where corrupt individuals cannot readily acquire hierarchical authority over others and entrench themselves behind layers of systemic powers.

      Instead of an electoralist system where we elect representatives to dictate at their discretion which interests they will ultimately support for a federated system of syndicates where each has a set of delegates which have been assigned a specific responsibilities and expectations where, if those individuals are found to neglect their responsibilities, we can readily rescind their power of authority and replace them.

      Power must come from the bottom up, otherwise we are slaves to the whims of those who wield authority from on high.

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    I’ve heard this “if we expose them whatta-buh-bout collapse?” a few times now. And if you’re trying to tell me that the global system is predicated upon the ultra rich and powerful being able to traffick and serially abuse children and get away with it, that’s not a system worth saving.

    Burn it down, to the water line, and start anew. Release the whole thing, not a redacted or doctored list to quell the MAGA revolt. Everyone who was ever on that island - from the wait staff to Bill Gates - needs to be investigated properly, cleared as appropriate, and punished as deserved.

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      Completely agree, and the stonkingly overinflated ego on them to even contemplate an inking of the idea that society would collapse just because some scummy paedo cunts get some well deserved comeuppance is astonishing.

      Christ, fucking baboons do a better job keeping their societies running more smoothly then these kiddie fiddling chucklefucks.
      Plus there would be many more people chomping at the bit to do their ‘jobs’, but do it better.

      Send the nonces to prison, fuck sake.

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    I would imagine there are at least half a million people far more qualified and with more integrity to replace those dummys

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    The world’s most powerful people going to prison would not cause the collapse of society. That is just not what society is. Even setting aside all hate for the 0.1% and judgments about whether they deserve prison, it’s just ridiculous to say that society depends on them. Who even wrote that line? Ayn Rand’s grandson?

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    I hate how hopeful I am. I keep believing that at some point these people on the right are going to wake up and realize what they’ve voted for.

    And I am continuously disappointed as they make more and more excuses for the criminal acts their leadership has committed each time they come to light.

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    Trump says it can destroy innocent people? Why would innocent people be against publishing a list of pedophiles?

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      Yeah, it’s always funny when conservatives are like ‘careful what you wish for, Clinton was friends with Epstein too!’. Like we give a fuck, lock him up!

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        This is the difference between “I want my team to win” or “I want the good guys to win”.

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          It should be a Venn diagram with “I want the bad guys to be punished.” Or a political compass with “I want to get away with raping women.”

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        Yeah, my dad was going on about “why do all the Democrats want the Epstein files released, weren’t the Clintons in there” and I’m like yeah, I want them to be investigated as well if needed. They can’t imagine people would want the guys on their side investigated because after Nixon, they truly think any investigation of a political figure is for political gain.

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      Yah this argument makes no sense even if I imagine being a corn-fed chud in the hills, isn’t this exactly the same “Bring down authority” narrative they’ve been preparing for years? Isn’t this LITERALLY Q-anon’s entire theater play but happening in real time?

      Wow what warriors for saving children, look at 'em go! Look at them storm the capitol to bring down this evil cabal who are now actually admitting their existence in public, no code words, no secret basements! Wait, they stormed the capitol already? And it was because of no reason at all?

      Well I’m sure they have something big planned to finally put an end to this deep-state scourge to life, liberty and children that they’ve been railing against for decades.

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      It’s amazing we’ve gotten to this point. Like, holy shit, I’ve got a doctor’s appointment in 30 minutes. I need to ask him to stop giving me these crazy pills.

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    Why would anything collapse? What a dumb thing to say. These people already don’t do anything but leech off the system. We’d have a more effective government and we’d kick the real welfare queens out.

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      This is what a by-election is for. Someone is removed/resigns from office, or dies in office, surely you just run a by-election?

      At least this is what we do in Australia for our house of reps (there’s a different system for the senate since electorates are state-wide).

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      By society they mean the veneer on brutal capitalism that allows them to do whatever the fuck they want while we get hosed

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      FUD let’s them scare people into accepting fascist policy like the secret police & concentration camps by vilifying immigrants instead of the actual source of voters’ problems, billionaires and the way their wealth hoarding destabilizes democracies.

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      In trump’s mind, there’s nothing more “innocent” that forcing two underage girls to dress up as maids, force them to perform sexual acts on each other and him, sexually assault them, and then tell them they “performed adequately “ before leaving them

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      “It’s good innocent fun that boys do, we have to stop persecuting these men for just doing what all men want!”

      This is going to be the pro-pedo narrative that the entire right does their abrupt 180 with.

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      Because rich people are allowed to rape children. Innocence is bought. Sometimes the language they use just exposes what they really mean. You just have to pay attention.

      They’re not dumb. The language and the words they use reveals a lot. They are saying that revealing the worst crimes of the capitalist class will destroy the world because the capitalist class will side with pedophiles before they let the proletariat take their power.

      They are saying “don’t make us go full fascist death camps. Revealing this will just lead to us treating the entire population like we have Gaza. We’ll defend our pedophiles if we need to to maintain power”

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      Trump will play this one like he’s played so many others: “It’s a witch hunt. They’re making up accusations to smear me. They’ll do anything to take me down because they hate me. They hate you too. See how the woke mob treat people? This is why we must destroy them.”

      Allegations of sexual misconduct have a mixed history (at best) of being taken seriously. Unless there is airtight evidence locked up in those files which was specifically composed for the purpose of implicating people, and then sealed for blackmail leverage or something like that, I can’t see any charges sticking to Trump. I mean the fucker is already an impeached convicted felon and self-confessed (on tape!) rapist. His flock will never turn against him.

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    Imprisioned? Hardly. Not with their kind of money and influence. Some would go down. We already know lots of names on the list which aren’t getting any serious time out of this.

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    Lol yeah we couldn’t possibly elect new reps. Gotta love conservatives and their static view of the world.

    *This is Atlas Shrugged from what I understand (haven’t read it). It’s a handful of businessmen that grace the world, and without them the world can’t function.