- “It’s simply impossible to go beyond fart factor 10.”
- “Eject the fart core!! (rip)”
- “I’ll execute you just like Tuvix if you ever change the type of beans in my coffee specification again!!”
- “We monitor for species that are on the verge of achieving the fart-drive technology.”
- “Bean me up, Scotty.”
- “The fart field extends around the ship traveling through fart-warped space, it’s like hot-boxing or Dutch ovenning.”
- “Foton torpedo, target their starboard fart-box, on my mark!”
- “Warning! Incoming fart signatures!!”
- “Do not reverse the polarity on the engine drive or we will all instantly get pink eye!!”
- “Who put hot-sauce on the Difarthium crystals?? The ship can’t take the extra boost!!”
- “Wesley, go clean the warp anuses!”
… all these scales can go to infinity regardless of if they are logarithmic or not (if I understood your complaint correctly).
And you are right, warp 10 isn’t the maximum, just an (energy consumption of that) tech limitation. And also that is very ship-capability specific - eg crew’s experience on a warp 7 ship going from 7.0 to 7.5 is not at all comparable in any practical navigational reasons to crew’s experience on a warp 9 ship going from 9.0 to 9.5.
I don’t think the warp 10 being infinite by default is cannon tho:
My complaint is that the warp factor only goes to infinity in the first chart you provided (the old system. i.e. as v –> ∞, fw –> ∞). They changed it from v = fw3*c. So warp 3 was 27c for TOS and ENT: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor
Warp 10 being infinite is definitely cannon, just ask the haters what the worst episode of Star Trek Voyager is haha
(The headline of this wiki article is a little off, he doesn’t travel “faster” than warp 10, he travels at warp 10)
Your second graph literally says “warp 10 is infinite velocity”, which is the new system. That there are 10 energy thresholds is cool world-building, but basing your velocity scale on it is annoying and unintuitive. When they use these numbers, unless you crack open a calculator, you have no idea how fast it actually is.
In the new system as as v –> ∞, fw –> 10, and I find that annoying.
Thx for writing all that up!
Complaining about science fiction science always produces interesting debates!
(I was surprised how much I’ve forgotten about this, and came up short :D.)
- “It’s simply impossible to go beyond fart factor 10.”
- “Eject the fart core!! (rip)”
- “I’ll execute you just like Tuvix if you ever change the type of beans in my coffee specification again!!”
- “We monitor for species that are on the verge of achieving the fart-drive technology.”
- “Bean me up, Scotty.”
- “The fart field extends around the ship traveling through fart-warped space, it’s like hot-boxing or Dutch ovenning.”
- “Foton torpedo, target their starboard fart-box, on my mark!”
- “Warning! Incoming fart signatures!!”
- “Do not reverse the polarity on the engine drive or we will all instantly get pink eye!!”
- “Who put hot-sauce on the Difarthium crystals?? The ship can’t take the extra boost!!”
- “Wesley, go clean the warp anuses!”
Whoever changed the warp scale in Star Trek: grumble grumble, warp 9 and warp 9.5 sound barely different.
I dunno about you, but I prefer a scale for velocity where as velocity goes to infinity, so does your scale
… all these scales can go to infinity regardless of if they are logarithmic or not (if I understood your complaint correctly).
And you are right, warp 10 isn’t the maximum, just an (energy consumption of that) tech limitation. And also that is very ship-capability specific - eg crew’s experience on a warp 7 ship going from 7.0 to 7.5 is not at all comparable in any practical navigational reasons to crew’s experience on a warp 9 ship going from 9.0 to 9.5.
I don’t think the warp 10 being infinite by default is cannon tho:
My complaint is that the warp factor only goes to infinity in the first chart you provided (the old system. i.e. as v –> ∞, fw –> ∞). They changed it from v = fw3*c. So warp 3 was 27c for TOS and ENT: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor
Warp 10 being infinite is definitely cannon, just ask the haters what the worst episode of Star Trek Voyager is haha
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threshold_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)
(The headline of this wiki article is a little off, he doesn’t travel “faster” than warp 10, he travels at warp 10)
Your second graph literally says “warp 10 is infinite velocity”, which is the new system. That there are 10 energy thresholds is cool world-building, but basing your velocity scale on it is annoying and unintuitive. When they use these numbers, unless you crack open a calculator, you have no idea how fast it actually is.
In the new system as as v –> ∞, fw –> 10, and I find that annoying.
Yeah, I agree with everything, I was just unsure what they said about 10 – my bad on ST lore.
Yeah all g, thanks for engaging with me :)
Thx for writing all that up!
Complaining about science fiction science always produces interesting debates!
(I was surprised how much I’ve forgotten about this, and came up short :D.)