We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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    And in this case, you replied to someone with .ml saying “why do .ml’s…” and “y’all…” You were clearly including them

    I think I very much addressed that in two different points to be rehashing this.

    Because of… the truth? Does being a “known violator of human rights” make it ok for people to spread lies?

    You’re saying the same thing I’ve expressed but from a different angle. We’re almost down to splitting hairs, except that you’re taking my words to an extreme. Did I or did I not add the tongue-in-cheek qualifier “accidentally” to licking boots to signify the benefit of the doubt of the people falling into this trap?

    If North Korea is my “enemy,” it’s certainly a very small and distant one that’s not really worth messing with.

    Not so distant if we’re going to be fighting a proxy war against them. If you think they’re a remote country not participating in world affairs, then I’ve got recent news for you.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/12/north-koreas-kim-voices-unconditional-support-for-russia-in-ukraine
    https://www.npr.org/2025/06/16/g-s1-71531/north-korea-soldiers-russia-ukraine-war-drones

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      Did I or did I not add the tongue-in-cheek qualifier “accidentally” to licking boots to signify the benefit of the doubt of the people falling into this trap?

      What “trap”?? The “trap” of correctly refuting misinformation? How generous of you!

      Not so distant if we’re going to be fighting a proxy war against them.

      Oh, well that’s very simple. Don’t fight a proxy war against them. I think I may not have expressed my position properly: there are no foreign threats anywhere that are anywhere near as important and dangerous as the ones here at home.

      Let’s do a quick quiz. Question 1: I can’t afford health insurance. The people primarily responsible for me not having access to healthcare live in which city?

      • A. Pyongyang
      • B. Moscow
      • C. Beijing
      • D. Tehran
      • E. Washington D.C.

      Question 2: Which country’s government poses the greatest threat to my safety and has the greatest ability to imprison/kill/harm me, as an American?

      • A. North Korea
      • B. Russia
      • C. China
      • D. Iran
      • E. US

      Now, would you kindly explain to me why I should rally behind the people who are most likely to harm me and who are the reason I don’t have healthcare against people thousands of miles away?

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        What the fuck are you on about, Jessie?

        The “trap” of correctly refuting misinformation? How generous of you!

        Listen, if you’re going to be this disrespectfully disingenuous, I’d rather you stop right now because you’re already getting into the realm of obnoxious and condescending.

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          Saying that people are licking boots “accidentally” by calling out and refuting misinformation is not notably better than saying that they’re licking boots intentionally. “I should be able to say whatever I want about this country, true or not, and if people push back, they’re accidentally licking boots” doesn’t become ok because it includes the qualifier “accidentally.”

          If I’ve misinterpreted you, you’re welcome to explain how or what you meant. Or to drop it in favor of my other points, which you seem to be evading.

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            “I should be able to say whatever I want about this country, true or not, and if people push back, they’re accidentally licking boots”

            Who is saying that?? 😅 If you in the process of clarifying something start overreaching in the wrong direction, you’re giving them leeway they don’t deserve. It’s simple, dude. I’ve seen it happen with people denying and downplaying horrible shit. Just like you want people to not overstate their actions, I don’t want people understating them either as I’ve seen some people do, on purpose (or not), or as I put it, “accidentally [… unless?]” That’s the tongue-in-cheek part because, precisely, how do you accidentally do it? There might be intent behind it, we don’t know. We are in the middle of an information trying to push people a certain way and these corners of the internet are quite happy with playing for Russia & friends.

            That’s the whole reason I’m telling you that I agree with you and that we’re fucking splitting hairs by coming at it from opposite sides.

            Loved the absurd tangent though, but I guess we need laser focus and surgical precision when it’s my turn to answer, huh.