This story seems to have faded in the wake of events ad nauseam. We are all aware of Senor Luigi. However, most folks can’t recall the full name of the guy that allegedly Luigi gunned down. Mission accomplished.

  • ipitco@lemmybefree.net
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    11 hours ago

    Thanks

    I believe not helping/providing service to people in need of help is a lot less worse than killing people directly

    The guy was probably a massive dick but glorifying his death and the killer is wild

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      5 hours ago

      Well look at it this way, the guy that got shot indirectly killed thousands and made a lot more peoples lives miserable through needless suffering and financial ruin, the guy who shot him killed one, in an attempt to stop the indirect killing. The first reaction of the company the guy that got shot worked for was to allow compensation for medical claims more easily (“rectified” since, but a bunch of people got essential help early in) therefore the shooter saved a lot more people than he killed. So why would anyone not glorify the killing as it was a net win.

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        5 hours ago

        Because it wasn’t his role, and he still is a murderer

        If the situation was the same, but the killer didn’t know the person he killed did all that, would you believe the same? Does intent really change anything? Else, some crimes could go unpunished

        And “indirectly” can be stretched far. Employer not paying enough, lawmakers enabling this, food makers putting dangerous additives in food

        Should we also kill hotel managers that put expensive rooms, so homeless or poor people can’t buy them, have to sleep outside, and could die from it?

        Same for flat and house owners. Putting an expensive rent, therefore lowering the money of the person living inside, and not allowing them to afford proper medical care would be considered indirectly killing, and the owner should be killed?

        It has huge implications, and we all have a role in it

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      7 hours ago

      No there are certain individuals in life who we are far better off without. Normalize killing exceptionally evil people

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        5 hours ago

        certain individuals

        certain individuals many individuals

        It’s evil but it’s all legal. Can’t kill them, too authoritarian. They should be in jail instead

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        5 hours ago

        Oh yea fuck em by all means, I just think comparing what they did to murder is fine

        If all greedy people were dead, there wouldn’t remain a lot of people on earth

        I’m sure you knew someone at some point that could have done it

        Would the world be better without them? Certainly. Is killing them okay? I find it excessive

        Laws are certainly required to stop this behavior

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      6 hours ago

      You think that not helping someone up who is clinging onto the edge of a cliff, about to fall and die, is not as bad as pushing them off?

      Sure, its not my fault that they are holding on, about to fall. I didn’t put them in that situation. But here i am, fully able to save them, nobody else around to do it instead of me. Do you think that i am less guilty of killing them if i refuse to help them?

      Heck, they are even paying me money every month to ensure i dont fall off cliffs. They will even have to pay some of the money it costs me to pull them up from the edge.

      Think about what you are saying mate… thats fucking ridiculous.

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        5 hours ago

        You created a medicine that can save sick people. Are you forced to sell it to sick people? If you ask for a lot of money, way more than it cost you to make it, is it killing them?

        I would say it’s shitty, but you don’t owe people anything.

        Now yea, not covering medical expenses for people in life threatening situations is really bad, but doing it when they’ll be okay and have to pay is less evil.

        And yea, about the cliff, I believe not helping is not the same as killing someone. You didn’t put them in this situation, and acting could affect you negatively. (But they would suffer a lot more from you not acting)

        America needs social healthcare by the government, not private companies