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crankyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

Who Remember This? We Also Broadcasted It Live To Schoolrooms

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  • Psythik@lemmy.world
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    Fewer human lives—sure, if you only include verified deaths—but the Soviet space program had considerably more deaths overall once you factor in other animals.

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      Not actually true, both sides used animal testing.

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        I know this. NASA’s animal fatalities were fewer and less often.

        Sources:

        • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_space_dogs
        • https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/sad-story-laika-space-dog-and-her-one-way-trip-orbit-1-180968728/
        • https://www.nasa.gov/history/a-brief-history-of-animals-in-space/
        • https://www.mygreenworld.org/blog/animals-in-space
        • https://www.rbth.com/science_and_tech/2014/10/11/animals_in_space_what_does_it_take_to_be_tasked_with_explori_40531.html
        • https://explore.britannica.com/explore/savingearth/laika-and-her-children-animals-in-the-space-race
        • https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/wild-things/brief-history-animal-death-space
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          Both sides sent animals into space, and many didn’t return. Animal testing in particular isn’t something unknown to science, nor was it done out of intentional cruelty nor for the purpose of profits, like the cosmetics industry. I feel like you’re narrowing in on something that ultimately isn’t an equivalent comparison, especially when compared to the scale of the food industry and its systematized mass brutality every second of every day.

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            Cite your sources please. Without verifiable sources, you’re just making shit up.

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              Am I making up that the US sent animals into space? What claim do you think I’m making up? I already linked my source 2 comments ago.

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                You cited a single source from a tabloid run by a Russian Oligarch. That doesn’t count. Please post multiple, verifiable sources.

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                  That what? That the US sent animals into space?

                  American and Russian scientists utilized animals—mainly monkeys, chimps and dogs—in order to test each country’s ability to launch a living organism into space and bring it back alive and unharmed.

                  Per NASA.

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