edit: seems like some people interpret “full of” as a mathematical majority which, while it may or might not be true instance to instance, isn’t my intent in posting

feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

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    Feel free to ask me any questions as well, since I’m gathering you still didn’t read anything I wrote.

    I actually thought you were interested in having a discussion for a minute and not just indignantly misinterpreting everything to take offense at.

    I’ll say it one more time: ignoring a culture war being fought against you doesn’t make it go away, even if it’s just a proxy for a class war. Southerners are fully capable of making informed decisions, and at some point you just stop having sympathy for the ones who could choose to be better but don’t. It sucks that some people can’t choose and get hurt along the way too. Maybe the misinformed will eventually hurt themselves hard enough to stop fighting a culture war against the disenfranchised at someone else’s behest, but I don’t have a lot of sympathy for those that choose to hurt others.
    An oppressed minority still means that there’s an oppressive majority who voted to hurt themselves.

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      Southerners are fully capable of making informed decisions, and at some point you just stop having sympathy for the ones who could choose to be better but don’t.

      There’s another confusion! I don’t know where you got the idea that this post was about sympathy for bad people when explicitly it talks about good people in the post. Super important! This is about solidarity across class lines. I would never and have never denied this and all of my comments here reflect that.

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        Because your post was about the people in the south who didn’t want this, and you held up the ignorant and misinformed as an example?

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      An oppressed minority still means that there’s an oppressive majority who voted to hurt themselves.

      Yup!

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      I’ll say it one more time: ignoring a culture war being fought against you doesn’t make it go away, even if it’s just a proxy for a class war.

      I agree! I don’t see why you brought this up but I agree! Lol.

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        class consciousness, not culture war.

        Because you were talking about culture war and I was responding to you?

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          yes. class consciousness is the most effective defense in culture war. it doesn’t mean ignoring it, of course.

          i would never and have never advocated for ignoring the material, social, or policy conditions that fall under the umbrella of “culture war.” and yet that’s something you made up and forced upon me with no evidence, argument, or logic. just emotions.

          check out this thread because i am done feeding this emotional energy. https://lemmy.cafe/post/19968013/12353527 notice how the conversation exactly matches all of my positive care for people living under your oppression and in no way reflects your made-up men of straw about “ignoring the culture war and trans people.”

          and notice how other people in the thread are understanding, asking questions, and not calling names when there is confusion.