Hopefully it’ll act as a spoiler against the republican candidate, opening the door for a progressive party to also form without causing a far-right candidate to get elected.
Honestly this is a great and perfectly realistic outcome. Of course, assuming ICE doesn’t just seize all the voting machines for the next election and Trump wins by 104% (which I think is a lot to ask at this point).
If, somehow, we have free and fair elections coming up, then a splintered right from the bullshit Musk and Joe Rogan put together or whatever, and a splintered left because their constituents want them to stop making it legal to hunt Palestinians for sport, makes it perfectly sensible that the dinosaurs who run our government could declare that some form of post-19th-century voting system that would enable a little bit fairer outcome than FPTP is what’s needed. And, when the dinosaurs want something to happen, it usually actually happens, without all this molasses speed when it is merely because of people dying or whatever the problem the regular people are having is.
Ranked choice still encourages strategic voting. Let’s say you have Bernie running as third party and he’s your favorite candidate in a ranked voting election.
If you vote for him as #1 and enough people do this, he can potentially eliminate the Democrat candidate. Then when the Democrat votes are transferred to the remaining candidates, there might be enough people who don’t like Bernie and transfer their votes to a Republican to make for the Republican winning.
If you rate the Democrat #1 and Bernie #2 then the Democrat candidate might win outright. So voting for your favorite candidate might hurt your second choice
Small correction - he started SpaceX, and that company is wildly successful. That’s mostly due to the incredible leadership of Gwynne Shotwell; but Musk did actually start that company.
That shouldn’t detract from your point, though, because AFAIK that’s the only successful company that he personally started
But it’s clear that this new party is Elon Money + Andrew Yang right now. This is somewhat worrying as Yang was a Democrat (albeit one that couldn’t win any primary and never reached critical mass, but a Democrat nonetheless). So there’s political power here that we need to consider as part of the equation
It gives Elon political cover and makes him look independent and looking like he’s splitting the Democrats. So we can’t fall for it but people out there will fall for it.
Lots of politicians ran under the democrat banner and then switched. What’s that one dude who wore the hoodie and had the stroke and then turned out to be fucking insane? My guess is the stroke wasn’t what made him a republican.
Anyone who possesses the kind of money that they possess, even Yang, are only in it for themselves and their cronies. They all, metaphorically laugh at us in the back room and Yang and Elon just came up with this fun plan to be the next person to dance in front of the crowd.
I think that is why they are afraid of AOC. She didn’t come from money. Sure she’s been able to make some cash speaking and stuff like that but she’s never gonna have hundreds of millions dollars. I would argue that she probably doesn’t want that kind of money anyway.
that one dude who wore the hoodie and had the stroke and then turned out to be fucking insane
I hate this timeline. Living across the Pacific, I actually know about Fetterman.
An Australian shouldn’t know the names of so many American politicians. But it’s hard when y’all are trying to out-crazy each other every second day.
I couldn’t even name our current speaker of the house, yet I can identify Mike Johnson whenever his mug shows up in the news. This is truly the dumbest timeline.
I feel sorry for people outside of the US who have to hear all our bullshit. Other countries have crazy people for sure but fuck do we love to make sure people know.
Opening the news is like self-harm over here. I seriously have medication so I can not freak out.
What’s that one dude who wore the hoodie and had the stroke and then turned out to be fucking insane? My guess is the stroke wasn’t what made him a republican.
His staffers were literally crying and large numbers of reports are that he is a changed man after the stroke. Its uncommon, but it happens. Brain damage can result in personality shifts.
He’s some Pennsylvania Politician, I forget his name but maybe a Senator.
Anyone who possesses the kind of money that they possess, even Yang, are only in it for themselves and their cronies.
Well yes. But that’s traditional American Politics and its been like that for a long time. People prefer the devil they know (money / greed) rather than other vices.
If anything, being openly greedy makes people more comfortable with the personality.
I’m thinking that’s what he’s doing here. He’s threatening to fracture the furthest right to get what he wants and he’ll spend a pile to do it. I’m convinced this is his play to buy the Republican party.
Hopefully this will be like a first up tech startup where they are super successful for a while, then someone else comes along and does it better.
Hopefully it’ll act as a spoiler against the republican candidate, opening the door for a progressive party to also form without causing a far-right candidate to get elected.
Yang was a Democrat though.
Was he really, though?
Pretty sure he was always just a libertarian wearing a blue hat…
I’m hoping we get ranked choice voting more widespread because of it.
Honestly this is a great and perfectly realistic outcome. Of course, assuming ICE doesn’t just seize all the voting machines for the next election and Trump wins by 104% (which I think is a lot to ask at this point).
If, somehow, we have free and fair elections coming up, then a splintered right from the bullshit Musk and Joe Rogan put together or whatever, and a splintered left because their constituents want them to stop making it legal to hunt Palestinians for sport, makes it perfectly sensible that the dinosaurs who run our government could declare that some form of post-19th-century voting system that would enable a little bit fairer outcome than FPTP is what’s needed. And, when the dinosaurs want something to happen, it usually actually happens, without all this molasses speed when it is merely because of people dying or whatever the problem the regular people are having is.
Ranked choice still encourages strategic voting. Let’s say you have Bernie running as third party and he’s your favorite candidate in a ranked voting election.
If you vote for him as #1 and enough people do this, he can potentially eliminate the Democrat candidate. Then when the Democrat votes are transferred to the remaining candidates, there might be enough people who don’t like Bernie and transfer their votes to a Republican to make for the Republican winning.
If you rate the Democrat #1 and Bernie #2 then the Democrat candidate might win outright. So voting for your favorite candidate might hurt your second choice
Elon Musk can’t start shit.
The only successes Musk has are when he buys out a leadership position, like Tesla (sued in court to become an official founder).
Andrew Yang is the one to keep an eye out here. Musk has the money but I’m expecting Yang to do the heavy lifting.
What, Yang is on board? That… suddenly changes entirely how I think about this.
Small correction - he started SpaceX, and that company is wildly successful. That’s mostly due to the incredible leadership of Gwynne Shotwell; but Musk did actually start that company.
That shouldn’t detract from your point, though, because AFAIK that’s the only successful company that he personally started
I kinda can’t understand Yang going all-in on this… Who would want to associate themself with “the Nazi salute guy?”
Why would an American tech millionaire believe in the power of money and become subservient to a Billionaire?
I dunno. Good question.
Still on that yang train eh? Why do people love rich people? Lmfao
I’m not on YangGang and I never liked that guy.
But it’s clear that this new party is Elon Money + Andrew Yang right now. This is somewhat worrying as Yang was a Democrat (albeit one that couldn’t win any primary and never reached critical mass, but a Democrat nonetheless). So there’s political power here that we need to consider as part of the equation
It gives Elon political cover and makes him look independent and looking like he’s splitting the Democrats. So we can’t fall for it but people out there will fall for it.
he sold out and faded to obscurity, hes not credible enough.
Lots of politicians ran under the democrat banner and then switched. What’s that one dude who wore the hoodie and had the stroke and then turned out to be fucking insane? My guess is the stroke wasn’t what made him a republican.
Anyone who possesses the kind of money that they possess, even Yang, are only in it for themselves and their cronies. They all, metaphorically laugh at us in the back room and Yang and Elon just came up with this fun plan to be the next person to dance in front of the crowd.
I think that is why they are afraid of AOC. She didn’t come from money. Sure she’s been able to make some cash speaking and stuff like that but she’s never gonna have hundreds of millions dollars. I would argue that she probably doesn’t want that kind of money anyway.
I hate this timeline. Living across the Pacific, I actually know about Fetterman.
An Australian shouldn’t know the names of so many American politicians. But it’s hard when y’all are trying to out-crazy each other every second day.
I couldn’t even name our current speaker of the house, yet I can identify Mike Johnson whenever his mug shows up in the news. This is truly the dumbest timeline.
Msm has been blasting pro-GOP, trump news 24/7 for the last year now, it made sense why they are so well known.
That’s his name!
I feel sorry for people outside of the US who have to hear all our bullshit. Other countries have crazy people for sure but fuck do we love to make sure people know.
Opening the news is like self-harm over here. I seriously have medication so I can not freak out.
His staffers were literally crying and large numbers of reports are that he is a changed man after the stroke. Its uncommon, but it happens. Brain damage can result in personality shifts.
He’s some Pennsylvania Politician, I forget his name but maybe a Senator.
Well yes. But that’s traditional American Politics and its been like that for a long time. People prefer the devil they know (money / greed) rather than other vices.
If anything, being openly greedy makes people more comfortable with the personality.
I’m thinking that’s what he’s doing here. He’s threatening to fracture the furthest right to get what he wants and he’ll spend a pile to do it. I’m convinced this is his play to buy the Republican party.
he did spend around 275mil to get trump elected, probably pissed he dint get what he wanted out of that payment.