Yeah this is just manufacturers self rating themselves. This is just like VW cars rating themselves as getting 5-10mpg better than their competitors, when really they were just measuring from the balls.
The up side is if they fail to meet those ratings then are the consumers entitled to some sort of compensation?
Btw, I love how Piefed shows comments from cross-posts. Every client should do it, helps make the fediverse feel bigger and more diverse.
How is battery life measured under this new EU regulation?
One interesting detail is that the battery endurance rating in the new labels is tested using the same software used by many tech reviewers: SmartViser. This French automation company works with labs and manufacturers to simulate real-world usage. So now, the battery performance you see on the label is based on consistent, lab-tested data, not just marketing claims.
The information to be provided pursuant to Articles 3 and 4 shall be obtained by reliable, accurate and reproducible measurement and calculation methods, which take into account the recognised state-of-the-art measurement and calculation methods, as set out in Annex IV.
Article 6
Verification procedure for market surveillance purposes
Member States shall apply the verification procedure laid down in Annex IX when performing the market surveillance checks referred to in Article 8(3) of Regulation (EU) 2017/1369.
It kind of isn’t. The EU is giving the cell companies guidelines on how they should test their batteries, and then report their numbers back to the EU. So “Apple” are testing their apple phones and then telling the EU their alleged numbers.
Standardized testing isn’t the end all be all. Manufacturers have wiggle room. Most of the time you can also voluntarily derate yourself. EPA testing is standardized, but there’s a surprisingly wide margin that you can test your car at.
BMW is pretty famous for derating their HP output so they’re closer to whats available at the wheels. Every other manufacturer will measure at the crank (the balls)
Have you worked with 3rd party testing companies? It isn’t the end all be all. Even in 3rd party testing manufactures get wiggle room, and can voluntarily derate their numbers. Especially if there’s any accountability for failing to meet those numbers there’s a good reason to do so.
Piefed is both an instance (piefed.social) and back-end server software that allows anyone to run their own instance (list of various Piefed instances). It works on the same ActivityPub protocol as Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin so they all interoperate with each other.
One of the cool things I like about Piefed is it seems to join the comments of various instances in cross-posts. On Lemmy, you can see its crossposted, but you have to manually check them out to see any comments on others. One cool feature I like over Lemmy. There’s a few others, but I’d encourage you to check it out. You don’t have to commit if you don’t like it.
That’s amazing, thanks for sharing that about piefed. More people should hear this. It ties the Fediverse together nicely and is likely opt-out.
I’ve been holding off on using it more because I haven’t found a replacement for Summit. But because of that feature, I’ll make a bigger effort.
From @[email protected] on a post over at [email protected]
Btw, I love how Piefed shows comments from cross-posts. Every client should do it, helps make the fediverse feel bigger and more diverse.
This comment says otherwise:
https://lemmy.world/comment/18057099
the actual legislation is not that specific as far as i can tell:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1669#anx_I
Awesome! Good to know its based off some kind of standardized testing. This is good for everyone!
It kind of isn’t. The EU is giving the cell companies guidelines on how they should test their batteries, and then report their numbers back to the EU. So “Apple” are testing their apple phones and then telling the EU their alleged numbers.
Standardized testing isn’t the end all be all. Manufacturers have wiggle room. Most of the time you can also voluntarily derate yourself. EPA testing is standardized, but there’s a surprisingly wide margin that you can test your car at.
BMW is pretty famous for derating their HP output so they’re closer to whats available at the wheels. Every other manufacturer will measure at the crank (the balls)
It’s also wrong. That comment is misinformation.
They are lab tested by a 3rd party in the EU, SmartViser.
Have you worked with 3rd party testing companies? It isn’t the end all be all. Even in 3rd party testing manufactures get wiggle room, and can voluntarily derate their numbers. Especially if there’s any accountability for failing to meet those numbers there’s a good reason to do so.
Is piefed an instance?
Piefed is both an instance (piefed.social) and back-end server software that allows anyone to run their own instance (list of various Piefed instances). It works on the same ActivityPub protocol as Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin so they all interoperate with each other.
One of the cool things I like about Piefed is it seems to join the comments of various instances in cross-posts. On Lemmy, you can see its crossposted, but you have to manually check them out to see any comments on others. One cool feature I like over Lemmy. There’s a few others, but I’d encourage you to check it out. You don’t have to commit if you don’t like it.
That’s amazing, thanks for sharing that about piefed. More people should hear this. It ties the Fediverse together nicely and is likely opt-out.
I’ve been holding off on using it more because I haven’t found a replacement for Summit. But because of that feature, I’ll make a bigger effort.