Obama ran on Change, closing Gitmo, and universal healthcare. That he governed as a neoliberal scared to change anything doesn’t change what people actual voted for.
And then in Obama’s second term he just had the incumbent’s advantage. Then neoliberal Biden, VP to Obama, won on change again. Then Trump won on changing back.
You may just be rationalizing because you don’t like neoliberal, so you think no one does.
I don’t like neoliberals, but my comment only referenced them because you defined Obama as neoliberal when his first campaign was very much not. That’s what people voted for. And of the elections after that, the only one that couldn’t be easily described as based on “change” was Obama’s second term against Romney, who is himself sort of the antithesis of change.
That’s a fair assessment, actually. I think many voters often want change or don’t want change, and they don’t really consider which direction the change goes.
If anything bad is happening, whether it’s the current administration’s fault or the previous, they’ll be interested in trying something different.
The swing voters and the non-swing but intermittent voters will just take gut checks about how their life is going and figure out which side wants that to change. Each side, when they’re up for change, will pretend their chosen policies will fix everything, and enough people don’t really have the wherewithal to recognize whether it’s actually going to do anything.
The truth is, for both sides, usually it won’t, because even the good stuff is usually tinkering on the long term or hoping that business subsidies trickle down to regular people. Before Trump mostly nothing happened to really impact people’s lives, and Trump’s stuff is all terrible. So the same stresses that prompted them to believe the other guy’s changes would finally do something are still there and they’re now looking for a new lie to believe in.
That’s a narrative pushed here a lot, but I haven’t seen good evidence it is true.
Wasn’t Obama a neoliberal shitbag by your standards?
Obama ran on Change, closing Gitmo, and universal healthcare. That he governed as a neoliberal scared to change anything doesn’t change what people actual voted for.
And then in Obama’s second term he just had the incumbent’s advantage. Then neoliberal Biden, VP to Obama, won on change again. Then Trump won on changing back.
You may just be rationalizing because you don’t like neoliberal, so you think no one does.
I don’t like neoliberals, but my comment only referenced them because you defined Obama as neoliberal when his first campaign was very much not. That’s what people voted for. And of the elections after that, the only one that couldn’t be easily described as based on “change” was Obama’s second term against Romney, who is himself sort of the antithesis of change.
That’s a fair assessment, actually. I think many voters often want change or don’t want change, and they don’t really consider which direction the change goes.
If anything bad is happening, whether it’s the current administration’s fault or the previous, they’ll be interested in trying something different.
The swing voters and the non-swing but intermittent voters will just take gut checks about how their life is going and figure out which side wants that to change. Each side, when they’re up for change, will pretend their chosen policies will fix everything, and enough people don’t really have the wherewithal to recognize whether it’s actually going to do anything.
The truth is, for both sides, usually it won’t, because even the good stuff is usually tinkering on the long term or hoping that business subsidies trickle down to regular people. Before Trump mostly nothing happened to really impact people’s lives, and Trump’s stuff is all terrible. So the same stresses that prompted them to believe the other guy’s changes would finally do something are still there and they’re now looking for a new lie to believe in.
He acted like one once he got elected but that’s not what got him elected. His campaign was very different from his Presidency.
He campaigned as a socialist, he turned-coat a few months into his first term.