I think I get it. Right wing groups like koch Bros and heritage institutes push the left to fracture into very niche small subsets in order to isolate making it hard for those groups to organize and easier to kill them off. Much like how a cheetah separates a young calf from the herd. So what groups are you talking about for your “huge range of viewpoints”
Totally not silly at all to get hyper specific about political ideology. I’m a liberal right center neo cat Audi rhino born a capitalist but transitioned to a socialist somewhere around 1992 when political synergy was at its peak
Nah, it aint that deep. The left wants socialism, the right wants capitalism. There are differences in views among leftists and right-wingers, but the base is in if the principle aspect of the economy should be public, or private.
No, the left want socialism, be it anarchism, marxist socialism, etc. Capitalism is not the “absence of socialism,” it’s its own thing.
You’re confusing people calling right-wing parties like the DNC “left” in the context of USian politics, but that’s because the left is fringe, in parties like PSL.
What do you think makes the divide? Why are you so insistent on calling capitalism “left wing?”
I mentioned the DNC because it seemed like that’s what you were going for. It isn’t about “ideals,” it’s about property relations. Capitalism is the status quo, ergo liberalism is right wing.
Among the various regional and national movements, the civil rights movement in the United States during the 1960s strongly highlighted the liberal efforts for equal rights.[197] The Great Society project launched by President Lyndon B. Johnson oversaw the creation of Medicare and Medicaid, the establishment of Head Start and the Job Corps as part of the War on Poverty and the passage of the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964, an altogether rapid series of events that some historians have dubbed the “Liberal Hour”.[198]
Even in America, liberalism is left.
And the meme interpreted as the left absolutely stands
None of those claimed liberalism was left wing. Liberalism is the ideological superstructure of capitalism, it supports private property rights above all else. I really think you need to step back for a second and try to see what others are telling you, rather than try to convince people that capitalism is left wing.
I think I get it. Right wing groups like koch Bros and heritage institutes push the left to fracture into very niche small subsets in order to isolate making it hard for those groups to organize and easier to kill them off. Much like how a cheetah separates a young calf from the herd. So what groups are you talking about for your “huge range of viewpoints”
Totally not silly at all to get hyper specific about political ideology. I’m a liberal right center neo cat Audi rhino born a capitalist but transitioned to a socialist somewhere around 1992 when political synergy was at its peak
Nah, it aint that deep. The left wants socialism, the right wants capitalism. There are differences in views among leftists and right-wingers, but the base is in if the principle aspect of the economy should be public, or private.
Not all left want socialism. The political spectrum is not divided by “want socialism / do not want socialism”
But you’re right it’s not that deep
No, the left want socialism, be it anarchism, marxist socialism, etc. Capitalism is not the “absence of socialism,” it’s its own thing.
You’re confusing people calling right-wing parties like the DNC “left” in the context of USian politics, but that’s because the left is fringe, in parties like PSL.
What do you think makes the divide? Why are you so insistent on calling capitalism “left wing?”
Jesus I’m so sick and tired of people parroting this DNC line. Nobody has mentioned the DNC here.
Capitalism is not a defining feature of being left. There is more to being on the left than just socialist ideals
I mentioned the DNC because it seemed like that’s what you were going for. It isn’t about “ideals,” it’s about property relations. Capitalism is the status quo, ergo liberalism is right wing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Even in America, liberalism is left. And the meme interpreted as the left absolutely stands
None of those claimed liberalism was left wing. Liberalism is the ideological superstructure of capitalism, it supports private property rights above all else. I really think you need to step back for a second and try to see what others are telling you, rather than try to convince people that capitalism is left wing.
Hey what’s the title of this Princeton article
https://www.princeton.edu/~starr/articles/articles12/Starr_Center-left-liberalism.html
Anymore of this nonsense I’m just going to post chatgpt references cause I know how you all love that