Working as intended then. Because in general most instance admins just care that you’ve put in at least a little effort to answer their questions, which in their eye makes it less likely that you’re a spammer or troll.
I agree with this. One of the more irritating things about places like Reddit is that they’re full of low effort content and conversations get filled with a lot of noise from people who don’t really want to meaningfully contribute.
This will just create a culturally irrelevant ivory tower.
This. Lemmy.ca also had questions which were clearly just a check that you were a human
Yeah, I just said that I’m coming from Reddit and my username is what I’ve always used, and I got approved within a minute.
*ChatGPT intensifies*
I did the essay for a couple of the popular instances and still didn’t get approved
Thank god for lemmy.fmhy.ml
Thank god for lemmy.fmhy.ml
This instance has gotten me to don my eye patch and sail the seven seas for the first time in years.
Yeah Im dusting off the surfer after a few years of just making sure the battery is good…
This instance reminded me one of the main reasons I cared about computers was sailing the seas.
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i just put my in for lemmy.ml and got approved in like half an hour
Yes fmhy all day 🙌
I never know what I “can contribute”. However I have Opinions That Must Be Heard. That’s probably sufficient.
Regardless, lemmy.world rocks.
Those of us who did write an essay still haven’t heard anything back yet, so don’t feel like you’re missing anything for being lazy.
FYI I never got any email and thought I was rejected/pending too. But I signed in the next day and it worked. So it might just be the notifications that aren’t going out. Also I only had to write like one sentence.
So that’s what happened. Thanks for giving me the push to try.
I wrote two or three sentences I think, got accepted quickly. Maybe they’re dealing with an influx of applications.
From what I’ve heard, there’s thousands of applications they are working through so it may take a bit to get caught up.
I’m guessing. I’ve been waiting 2 days on anything from Beehaw. Meanwhile, signing up on lemmy.world took 10 seconds.
Did you try subscribing instead? Once you sign up for one instance, you don’t have to sign up for another. I only signed up for beehaw.
I plan on subbing to the things on beehaw that I like. I just liked the concept of their community so I wanted to sign up there. That didn’t work out though.
Gotcha. At least you can still access and comment on other instances.
I wrote three sentences too, got approved within 12 hours. I assume people writing essays are going to take longer since someone has to read it.
I wrote 3 sentences 3 days ago and still can not login. (Beehaw)
I registered at lemmy.ml, on 6/9. Wrote a sentence or 2 per question. Never heard anything back by email but I tried logging in the next day and I was in. Either they aren’t sending emails or something is broken with the mail flow. Either way took me less than 5 minutes to say I wasn’t a complete fuck and was looking to move away from Reddit. Actually this response might be longer than what I wrote to register lol
Lemmy.ca has email optional, so I didn’t add one (might later). I answered the questions, tried to log in 15 or 30 minutes later, and here I am. I’d be unsurprised if there are a few people waiting g for their approval notifications who didn’t actually provide one.
Also, there was a bug that affected email notifications or something? I remember seeing something like that when I joined last weekend.
Also because because beehaw has sownvotes disabled. Imo downvotes are an integral part of the Lemmy experience. As it is for reddit.
The issue lies with what downvotes really mean. We’ve all seen instances on Reddit where where downvoted to hell because it was an idea contrary to the majority of the sub/echo chamber even though they were totally valid.
It was absolutely impossible to have a constructive conversation between two opposing beliefs on reddit partly because of that system, it was really infuriating. On the other hand, beehaw seems to outright block the instances where users don’t subscribe to their echo chamber, and I don’t think that’s good either.
I would very much like a world where upvotes and downvotes are not symmetric. As is we say total is upvotes minus downvotes, but in reality upvotes exist to say “good job” and downvotes should exist to say “this is spam or unnecessary”
A better system, IMO, would be to make downvoting closer to reporting, a little harder to do, but if the ratio of down to up passes a certain threshold, the comment is then flagged for review and/or just massively downgraded.
Oh, and you cannot do that to something you reply to. Either say “this is trash not worth engaging with” and move on, thus ensuring trolls do not get fed, or reply but acknowledge it was worth engagement.
I think that’s the kind of idea being debated at https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/ right now
I like where you are going with that thought. I would like to see tags users can vote on like “spam, bot, hate, troll” or something. So the users can moderate themselves a bit. These tags can then be reviewed by a moderator who can make the ultimately decide what happens. Of course this is still prone to bridging and bullying but just trying to think outside the box
Honestly it was kinda foolish for Reddit to ever think it was going to be otherwise. People are inherently tribal by nature.
basically every thread i was apart of.
I don’t really care about the lack of downvotes but the reason I didn’t join beehaw was because users are not allowed to create new communities there, you have to ask the admins for permission
not that I wanted to spam a bunch of stupid communities but I prefer a more organic approach to growth than constant applications to get anything done
reminds me of intentionally obtuse government functions where everything has to go through committee before approvalI do respect their intentions though wanting a more curated experience, just not for me at this time
I just think its fantastic that instances can try different things and users can (actually, really, for real this time) easily vote with their feet.
LMAO, felt this.
The last time I had to write a Statement of Intent was to get into grad school and I sure as shit ain’t doing homework for a free online community.
I wrote a essay with a million grammatical errors, then decided I’d prefer to have my account on a instance that is smaller and in the EU as I have that option :)
Also part of it was anxiety of who saw and approved 👍
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@Maxatal @lemmyworld I was doing some research on the fedeverse today and saw lemmy was in Germany lol
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I kinda dig this new (compared to Reddit) “friendly competition” dynamic between servers.
You haven’t seen the lemmygrad join requirements.
I signed up for Lemmy.world, because not having downvotes is stupid and leads to a shitty community.
Ironic that three people downvoted this. But I agree, a “no downvotes” rule is designed to avoid disagreement and conflict, which is impossible on a public forum without extremely restricted expression. If the point is to be always be nice, why not disable open commenting and make users select their replies from a list of canned positive comments. 100% safety and positivity.
I’m torn on the whole no downvote button thing (I missed that when I signed up), but you can be still nice while having a discussion and disagreeing with people.
I would argue that the downvote button can lead to exactly what you are describing though, no disagreement or conflict.
Someone posts a unpopular opinion, a bunch of users downvote it to hell and poof!, no discussion or exchange of ideas. Just out of mind, out of sight.There are issues with both sides of the down button debate, but I’m more for it than against.
For a different take on the downvote button, yesterday I put a post up on a technical thread. I hadn’t really read properly what the discussion was about, so my post wasn’t really helpful even if well intentioned. I only noticed when I got a couple of downvotes. I looked again at my post, then at the OP, then realised my error. Eventually I deleted my post. So, in that instance, I found the downvote helpful to myself as well as for the rest of the thread: make sure I read the OP carefully. ;-)
In this case a reply informing you about the missunderstanding would also work. My hope is that one of the people downvoting will take the time to do that when there is no downvote button.
That’s only true if there is a downvote threshold that automatically hides downvoted comments, which I don’t think Lemmy has implemented. I agree that downvoting can be used to censor and avoid discussion, but the justification for removing downvotes on Beehaw is something like “keeping a positive environment with no negativity from disliking” rather than making sure users have to voice their disagreements and not just smash the
bluered arrow like cowards.
I do kinda wonder if beehaw actually has downvotes not do anything for comment ranking and such, or if they just hid the button for it’s users. Because I can still see a downvote button on beehaw communities, being from a different instance, and I often notice comments on that instance that do have a downvote or two, which seems to imply that it does actually record and send data about downvotes from other users
Disabling downvotes is a feature in the lemmy software afaik, but apparently it affects the users on that instance rather than its communities, which certainly seems like it should be the other way around.
That is hilariously bad design if it’s actually the case
Wait. Some instances disabled downvoting?
Yes, beehaw one of them.
Maybe when they were a bunch of users it might have been a good idea to prevent brigading, but imho now that there is 1000x user activity it’s needed. I already saw the first spambots posting spam for meds…
Only one user has to report the spam and then it’ll be deleted by a mod. I think that’s a good system as well.
Hexbear would like a word with you
Whoever or whatever that is can suck my dick.
lol
lmao even
It’s actually the opposite.
I like lemmy.world so far - relatively neutral admins, no weird stuff like disabling downvotes, you can create communities and post nsfw!
And the only blocked instance is full of pedos and nazis, so kudos for lemmy.world!
All I put was “I like bees and to yeehaw proudly”. Its probably just a way to filter out bot accounts.
I think things have tightened up a lot over there in the last 5 or so days. I don’t even remember what I put (definitely nothing more substantial than yours) and I have an account over there of similar to age. People who have tried to sign up more recently have mentioned being rejected after multiple serious looking responses.
I put a serious response and was snubbed. Only put a sentence or two so maybe they were looking for something more.
Nah I just put “I want to scroll”
So basically @[email protected] roll? :-)
Ok now I’m embarrassed about how strongly I pitched myself to get on lemmy.ml. I was like overcaffeinated on the first five minutes of a blind date!
Lol people treating it like a cover letter hahahah! For the instances I joined I just said one or two sentences of what I wanted out of it.
All I said was that I was a Reddit refugee and why I use this name seemed to work fine for me
You mean I didn’t have to type out the entire script to Bee Movie?
Yeah I originally created an account at beehaw.org before coming over to lemmy.world. The main reason I moved was because I wasn’t a fan of the fact I couldn’t freely create new communities over there (and I don’t think you can create communities on other instances?), but also just ~vibes~.
To be fair, this is actually kinda great to see - it’s one of the strengths of this federated system. The folks that run these instances are being pretty generous already to just let us talk and share whatever the heck we want, and it’s perfectly reasonable for a host to want to be selective about who they let use their resources.
I have accounts on a few different communities. Mostly because there is no real way to know how the community is until you start interacting with it and it starts interacting with with other communities.
Beehaw is nice because they are actually trying to cultivate a friendly community and moderate a lot of the trash out. But also… sometimes you dont want that hand holding…
I’m on beehaw mostly because I don’t want my lemmy experience to mirror my reddit experience: ie getting into 10 comment arguments with bigots over things like “trans people deserve to live” or “art is inherently political”. I’ve had enough of that for a lifetime.
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“Ok great! This is looking good so far. So, all we need now I 3 professional references and a personal reference or two, and we’re all set here.”
-lemmy world probably
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That picture melted my heart!
I went through similar nonsense, at a pet shop. Even had to get the landlord’s letter of approval (despite a cat being approved on the lease agreement, which I brought with me), an “attestation of responsibility” from my parents (with which I haven’t lived for years at that point), and enter a 15-day waiting period as they review my application. Complete BS. Went to the pound and got one same day with none of that nonsense, for much less money, and prevented him from being euthanized later that same week. I did have to sign some agreement that stated that I will always treat the cat with care and compassion, and that if I didn’t want him in the future that I will return him to the pound and not let him free (all things that were a ‘given’ to me, but I guess they had issues in the past). I miss that little hooligan (RIP).
The other cat from the pet shop got adopted / purchased within a few days, too, so it really was a win-win-win situation.
