• Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    We need exercise our second amendment and the citizens need to arrest

    Elon Musk, Donald Trump, JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, Clarence Thomas, Big Balls and associated hacker coup, Peter Theil, Tulsi Gabbard, John Roberts, Jared Kushner, Steve Miller, Brett Kavanaugh and all January 6th rioters

    I think that would be a good start

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    If this arrest doesn’t happen, democracy is one step closer to the grave.

    A lot of shit has happened to destroy democracy so far (has anyone been keeping a list?), but if billionaires see that they can now buy votes, nothing will stop them from doing it over and over again. We will be Russia.

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      and its becoming blatant and bold

      Muskrat isn’t doing this for any other reason other than to test and expand the boundaries. It’s challenging the American people … if he can go this far and allowed to get away with it, then it will become the norm. The fault won’t be that he is doing it … the fault will be the American people who put up with this crap.

      I’ve given up on trying to understand dumb American politicians … I’m completely disillusioned and lost hope in the American people.

      It’s not a small group of billionaires that will destroy democracy in America … it will be an entire nation of people who just stand aside and watch everything burn without saying or doing a thing about it.

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        I’ve given up on trying to understand dumb American politicians

        It’s easy. They are cowards, and they are for sale. If money doesn’t make them snap to attention, threats will. I also think a healthy percentage of them have been to Russia, and those are being blackmailed.

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        I’ll probably get called a commie but at it’s core, is this version of democracy working well? I’m all for equal rights but if the majority of people are incapable of understanding what it takes to run a nation, how do we trust them to vote someone in who will be a good leader?

        If it wasn’t evident enough during his first campaign that he has no interest in enriching the lives of the average american, his first 4 years in office should have proven he is not trying to help out the blue collar class, if Jan 6 wasn’t enough to show he is not a level headed leader then what will? If his second term starting off with trying to start trade wars wasn’t enough, then at what point are we going to realize an overwhelming amount of people are always going to vote for terrible candidates?

        I’m having trouble reasoning to myself that the current system is capable of bringing progress. It’s just constant flipping between a couple parties undoing what the previous administration did, how is this a good thing?

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      If this arrest doesn’t happen, democracy is one step closer to the grave.

      Worry not, most Americans are bravely waiting until they have no options left and literally living in squalor before considering any action

      In the last 8+ years I have seen the goal post for action moved so many times, I have lost all hope Americans will actually do something for themselves

      I guess you won’t make fun of French people anymore

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        I have seen the goal post for action moved so many times

        Yes. I have too. I honestly think I’ve moved my own goal posts for action, as well. I think most of the people like me feel truly lost about what to do. We need a Martin Luther King, Jr figure to unite and direct.

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        I guess you won’t make fun of French people anymore

        It’s stupid now but it was already stupid when they did it before, so I don’t why that would change

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        A lot of people strongly believe that God will protect them from whatever terrible Biblical punishments are going to befall the Liberals, Minorities, and Gays. They seem to forget that the Divine Retribution they are praying for so hard always carries enormous collateral damage. SEE: Ark, Noah’s, also Sodom/Gommorah, also Plagues, Egyptian, etc.

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          Also, the people who think like this, are actually being evil, so their belief brings their own doom. TLDR: If you’re a cunt who sits back and revels in the suffering of those you don’t like, you aint going to heaven…

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      I’m at the point where I know he won’t face consequences because he’s rich. But an arrest and trial would at least be sanity.

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      Trump already announced he plans to prosecute anyone trying to enforce the Hatch Act.

      The Hatch Act is what makes this illegal.

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      It isn’t gonna happen. Nothing happened to Trump, nothing will happen to Musk. Too rich, too powerful. Justice is only for the pariahs.

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        Brilliant! I’d love to see the finished list when it’s done.

        I mean, I’d love for it not to have to exist, but here we are.

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      Democracy is not a step closer to the grave, it’s already dead, just not buried and so now it’s lying on the street , smelling funny and a tad off-colour.

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          Won’t happen. While I think all this institutional resistance is good. All of the lawsuits and judge rulings should only be seen as a way meant to delay. Fascism is here. You don’t unravel it using the existing institutions and systems.

          Delay and prepare. Learn who all your neighbors are. Make sure you can contact all of them quickly and that they can contact you. Your neighbors and your coworkers are who you should be organizing with. Talk to them. Find out who might be a target by ICE. Find out which one of them you can’t trust. And of course. Arm yourself.

          Elons not getting arrested but we don’t have to let them arrest us either. If there is no justice for Elon we can’t allow anymore injustice to us.

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            He’s actively this second openly buying a Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin. I mean obviously nows the time to do it or never do it.

            Nows the time to throw all the knives in the air.

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              Absolutely. And it has my full support. But he won’t ever see any consequences. The system made to empower oligarchs isn’t going to somehow tear down Oligarchs. But they are still absolutely worth doing as a form of resistance. I just don’t yhink people should be naive to think that that is the only part of resistance. It’s simply a method of delay to give us more time to organize.

              There is only one thing throughout history that has brought people in Elon’s class position to justice.

              https://youtu.be/acT_PSAZ7BQ

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                He can always use his money and connections to run away, and leave America, and never return. I strongly encourage him to do that.

                Then we can turn on Big Ballz and the Boys and take care of them next.

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        drumpf can’t pardon state felonies, and wisconsin can have musk extradited from any other state….
        this has teeth, but of course, he’ll just bribe and blackmail the right people and the prosecutors will decide although a law was broken, it’s best not to prosecute because musk is too cute or some bullshit….
        at any rate, it’s pretty good….

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      Right??? I had to start over after the first couple words, look at the thumbnail, then start reading again. Fucking hell.

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    Seriously, who would arrest a billionaire? It seems like he has a suit of armor made of money that everyone won’t touch. If anyone else walked into the federal agencies and did what he did, they would have been arrested.

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    Throw the dirty immigrant deep in an El Salvadoran prison. Fucking dirtbag. Give him a taste of his own medicine.

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      It’s imperative they perp walk him through the street in chains with 20 armed police officers first. Maybe the mayor can come out for the photo op

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    I think this went to court during the presidential election and if I remember correctly the court said that you can pay people to encourage them to vote but you cant pay them to vote for a certain candidate. So I dont see this going anywhere.

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    I’ve wanted to see him arrested for a while now too. I wonder if there’s a way to class-action sue him for trashing the government/economy. After all, he’s unelected and not even technically a government employee - just some rich asshole granted authority without mandate.

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      You have to be pretty naive to think this will even have the slightest of consequences. Maybe his tesla stock will drop slightly more but that’s it…

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    If I were a republican voter (I’m not), and the richest man in the world was buying votes for my preferred party, that would be a huge red flag because it’s very obvious that my own interests are not well aligned with the richest man in the world.

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      If you were a republican voter or even on the fence, it means you would not be thinking about it like that using logic.

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        I hear what you’re saying, but I think my point is that it doesn’t require “logic” it’s just basic threat aversion.

        Perhaps the missing link is that people don’t realise that Musk’s interests are not aligned with their own.

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    How have we not learned from Trump’s legacy that there’s a net worth threshold that once breached is a permanent get out of jail card?
    This isn’t complicated–these oligarchs have been definitively above the law since the very first days that laws existed