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It’s like Christmas. You don’t need to be popular all the time. Just in the month before it matters.
these morons still won’t admit their support online and irl of the “from the river to the sea” people marching on every american city, taking over university commons, beating up jews, interrupting democratic candidates at campaign events, not only freaked out middle america, but all of it, every night, on cable and network news, during the spring and summer of an election year, suppressed the young democrat vote, while young republicans, arab, and latino americans voted for donald trump in larger numbers than have ever voted for any Republican candidate before in history. wonder if the lemmy euro admins and mods are starting to reconsider their “moderation” and support of leftists protesting jews in favor of islamofascist terrorists. they won’t admit it either. and now, we’re all fucked.
downvote it, moderate it, do whatever you like, politics doesn’t exist in a vaccum, every action has an opposite reaction. now, ukraine, as good as gone, trump is backing whatever putin wants, gaza going to be turned into trump casinos, hundreds of thoursands of real live human beings deprived of life saving safe food, clean water, and medications because usaid simply shuttered, the world economy about to suffer the worst depression since the 1920’s due to trumps reciprocal tarrifs, death and suffering on a scale no one has ever seen before.
elections matter, there was a binary choice between the coninuation of democracy under kamala harris and fascist dissasembly under donald trump, and democratic youth didn’t show up, and the lemmy crowd still, even now, won’t admit why that might have been the case
What surprises (and worries) me is that, for his popularity to plunge, he had to have it. So he was popular among gen z’s. How can someone that young think trump is a good choice is something I can’t fathom.
Podcasts are super popular right now. Theo Von, Joe Rogan, Kill Tony, Shane Gillis, Matt McCusker all have a huge audience. They are all pro Trump; Tony famously spoke at a Trump rally, and Rogan is constantly pushing a pro conservative message.
Social networks have all gone to the right, as their leadership stands to benefit. Most of our major newspapers and entertainment networks are also owned by billionaires.
They own the messaging right now, and people aren’t thinking critically because they are either distracted or don’t know how.
Part of it is that the left isn’t seen as fun. We’re too serious and judgmental all the time. Many times there’s good reasons for that but young people don’t want to constantly hear about taxation and proper pronoun usage. Talk about legalizing LSD or something once in a while.
And yes, I understand that the right isn’t fun in a way that most people would want to be but there is definitely something to be said for not gatekeeping language to an absurd degree. Let people express themselves without all the “well actually that’s ableist because…” interjections. People only listen to you a finite amount. If you burn through your educational goodwill on minor stuff no one is going to listen when you warn them about important stuff like fascists taking over the government.
Up until the week or two before Biden dropped out blue no matter who folks were talking about what a great candidate Joe was, even though he appeared to have dementia during the debate. Folks on lemmy were accusing me of being a Russian bot for criticizing Biden.
The Dems are a cult just as much as the maga folks…
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I don’t know if I was one, but I’ll own it. I’m not even a fucking Dem, I was (am) just that fucking terrified of President Trump. I didn’t think there was enough time to select another candidate, and I would literally rather elect a vegetable than Trump.
The only possible candidate was Harris, and I didn’t think we would rally to her as well as we did. I was wrong. I was wrong about a lot this election.
After Biden dropped out, I was all in on Harris. She was literally the only other option. But also, she was a damn good candidate for probably a month. Until she refused to distance herself from Biden on Gaza. But idk what happened behind the scenes. Probably big money pulled her aside and told her she’ll back his policies or lose $100m.
I don’t know. It didn’t matter. Maybe Kamala lost because she is a woman and some things America just isn’t ready for yet. Maybe she lost because she fucked up. Maybe it was the economy and no one but Trump was ever even in the running (honestly what I believe).
It certainly wasn’t Gaza alone. Demographics prove that. Didn’t even cost her Michigan by itself. But it was a blowout across the map.
I doubt Biden would’ve won either, so it didn’t matter. At the end of the day, him dropping out didn’t help us (maybe down ticket? Idk…)
I don’t think I accused anyone specifically of being a foreign agitator, except one person who very clearly was not American and trying to pass themselves off as American and was trashing Biden and immediately pivoted to trashing Harris (“the ONE person worse than Biden!” Right…).
But if I did in my desperate attempt to support whoever was running against Trump, then I apologize. Those were contentious times. Fighting times. Now we all just have to survive the next four years and help one another the best we can.
They came of age during Trump’s first presidency, when he inherited a lot of gains made under Obama’s tenure. They saw things go to shit during Biden, who inherited both a pandemic and the consequences of Trump’s actions, and was a bit lackluster in dealing with them.
They simply didn’t have the life experience to see the bigger picture beyond that. Trump seemed like a good president because their lives were better during his presidency, but correlation does not equal causation.
Its certainly not just the kiddos who get tricked by that sleight of hand either. I feel like my whole life its just been a cycle of Republicans quickly fucking shit up, then a Democrat gets elected and rights the ship. Then because it’s not instantaneous the populace votes in another Republican that will fuck shit up again.
It looks like the Republicans know what they are doing because they can coast on a few years of the past administrations corrective measures.
A bit late isn’t it?
no, he was never popular with gen z… they stole the fucking election
Hopefully this poisons the generation against Republicans for decades to come…
I know growing up in a conservative dominant government they definitely made it so I have never voted conservative in any level of government for the past two decades.
Sorry, but anyone dumb enough to vote for Donald Trump after witnessing his first term is too stupid to learn from their mistakes.
Sweeping generalizations aren’t true and don’t help.
I hear your point and I think about that a lot, actually. Yes, what I said above was pithy and judgmental, but I also think it has a vein of truth in it.
I’ve dropped friends over their support for Trump, precisely because they fail to see what I deem to be obvious character flaws in him. That they can’t see those flaws speaks to an enormous lack of psychological perceptiveness. Can they realize they made a mistake in voting for him? I think they can regret it when the things he does negatively affect them, but that doesn’t mean their ability to judge character improves. What I meant by my statement above is that my confidence in people with such critical problems in empathy to fix those problems is extremely low.
I hope that more extensive explanation of my point makes it clear I’m not simply dismissing an entire class of people under a stereotype. I genuinely think supporting Trump speaks to a severe problem in psychological appraisal that is not easily rectified.
