• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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    Hm, yeah, it’s something every developer should know; client-side validation of input still needs server-side validation, because client-side is not reliable, no mather what you force on them.

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    Server side anticheats need to be considered. Clientside has been annoying users far too much, and can be bypassed. A combination of both (and I’d like a less intrusive clientside one) would be better

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    Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from a mile away. My conspiracy brain almost thinks this is some concerted and calculated effort by Microsoft to artificially lock games to Windows through anti cheat. It’s disgusting, isn’t needed, and just plain isn’t effective. They can spew all the metrics out of their ass, we all know that it’s just not effective.

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    Your anti-cheat doesn’t work anyway so let me play in linux you cowards.

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    More proof that anti-cheat and bans just isn’t a working approach.

    Almost every cheater I’ve talked to or seen interviewed has said they do it because they like winning. If thats the case, pushing them away isnt getting rid of them, its making them try to win harder, and they are literally spending money to make that happen.

    This means, there is a market for cheaters, one that publishers and devs simply assault instead of realizing they could replace it entirely.

    Create a marketplace in your game for cheats. When a player buys a cheat in game, they can turn it on but only in a specific playlist that cheaters get to play in. You dont need to own or turn on cheats to play in that playlist, in case you feel like challenging yourself, but cheaters can use them as much as they want in that playlist. If a cheater wants to go into cheat free playlist, their cheats get turned off by the game and they have to play like everyone else. Cheat free playlists can have cheat detection, and if you are caught cheating then you get banned from cheat free playlists permanently, but you arent banned from the game or the cheat playlist.

    This deters cheaters from paying third parties for cheats, gives them a space to experiment in, makes money for the company running the game, and reduces the amount of cheaters in regular public lobbies. It also creates a space of challenge for people who don’t cheat, sorta like how people will do no death runs in souls games.

    Sure, it isnt a perfect solution, but its far better than punishing every player with invasive tech, while simultaneously letting a market of cheat sellers thrive. For a bunch of capitalists, its wild they haven’t realized they are missing out on money with cheats.

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      I suspect that if you’re now playing where everyone else gets the same advantages, that ruins the fun of having cheats

      If not and the cheats themselves are just that fun to use, sure, add it in as another gamemode

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    at this point i just wanna cheat the hell out of these crappy games out of spite.

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      That’s punishing legit players, not the developers. Not playing this shit is the correct spiteful choice.

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      Honestly, if I had the skills I’d be doing that as an explicit fuck you to the draconian anticheat bullshit they force on everyone, because what better fuck you than showing all that effort was for naught, especially close to launch.

      EA can go fuck themselves with the world’s biggest cactus.

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      It’s fun to cheat in games, that’s why we have cheat codes.

      Also there’s the competitive side of it where not getting caught is a skill and glitching is just game knowledge.

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    I only found out about this today from someone whose computer got bricked from trying to enable secure boot.

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      My machine went into a boot loop and I had to clear CMOS to boot again.

      I wonder how many people without the resources to fix a problem like that easily are going to end up without computers for an extended period of time because of this.

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    Pretty much the same as all the other modern BFs. They all had cheats in the Beta/early release versions. I’ve played and own literally every BF game since the original release of 1942. Cheats have always been present more or less.

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    I am still baffled that anyone thinks that Kernel AC is any kind of effective at stopping hacks, people have been literally making a living off of defeating it, and selling those hacks / methods for almost a decade now…

    But nope, still got hordes of idiot gamers who think they work, think they’re necessary, think they can’t be spoofed.

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      It’s crazy to me that people cheat in online games. You really have to be a huge fucking loser to do this.

      Small pp energy.

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        Not sure how you could read this and come away with the idea that I do believe that…

        I am talking about the subset of gamers that go on internet forums and discord servers and make false, unsupported claims as to the effectiveness or necessity or Kernel AC over other forms of AC, tell people this just is how it is now, get with the program, eat the bugs, play the spyware game, its fine, everyone is doing it.

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        Indirectly buyers are making a decision on anticheat. If someone buys a game with anticheat, they’ve made the decision to reward the developer for making the decision to include anticheat.

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    So you got the spyware without the benefits, that’s a hell of a surprise isn’t it?

    But thank you for your money suckers!

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    So I can’t play battlefield without TPM? I hate tech these days. My Ryzen board doesnt have it. Hence why I’m not on windows 11

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        Same. Keeps things simple with Linux, and Windows doesn’t even complain about it being disabled, so long as it’s present. I’ll never understand why it’s even required if you don’t even have to enable it.

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          So they can have an excuse to force you to upgrade to Windows 11 beyond “whoops, turns out making an operating system as a ‘buy once’ product is a bad idea.”

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            Joke’s on them; I already upgraded to Windows 11. I was among the first. It’s actually a solid OS once you disable all the ads and telemetry with O&O Shut Up 10.

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              Yeah I did the same using WinUtil. Still, I only fire up windows when I need to use software without native Linux support.

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      You can still get win 11 without TPM by using Rufus and bypassing TPM which will have to be done for a lot of old PCs and we will have to do it by October this year.

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          Your computer will gradually get more and more filled with security holes that will be problematic to patch. Eventually, programs will stop supporting it as well.

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        Does this disable updates though? My wife somehow had Win11 installed on her pc without enabling secure boot, and her updates got so far behind that now it refuses to update and needs to be reinstalled.

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          No it doesn’t, but I’ll try putting it on one of my older PCs again and report back I only use Linux