• kadu@lemmy.world
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    What’s going on right now is actually a fantastic example of why this whole “people can have guns to overthrow a tyrant!” has been nothing more than a delusion used to justify having a gun fetish. It’s 2025. Your gun will do absolutely nothing against the literal trillion dollars of annual spending you’ve approved for your own military and intelligence agencies.

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      I think it would make a difference. You saw how fast Elon started using his kid as a shield and others basically stayed off the streets after UH CEO got lit up. They’d be VERY scared if an unknown person started knocking them off, maybe 1 a month for a year, I think it’d send a VERY clear message. Especially if it’s released why they got popped. Behavior would change quick.

      The only reason we have shitty people make terrible, illegal decisions right now is because no one is holding them accountable. A .308 round would change that shit quick fast in a hurry.

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      Most American gun owners would probably get assigned dish duty in the Mujahideen, but there’s multiple precedents for effectively countering a military like the US, as hard and brutal and costly as it is.

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      That trillion dollars is designed to fight conventional armies and extremist Islamist terrorist cells in Africa and the Middle East. Our military apparatus is simply not capable of stopping any single individual, or small group(s), from randomly deciding to crash out. Unless the NSA/CIA/FBI/WTF/BBQ suddenly gain the power to read every person’s mind, there’s not a thing wealthy sociopaths can do to effectively wield the military against citizens in a way that makes it safe for those same sociopaths to walk down the street.

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      US vs Russia or China. We’d have a solid shot of winning. Or we would have. Before drones became as common as bullets on the battlefield. But if the last 25 years have taught us anything it’s that for all our advanced hi-tech expensive bullshit we still can’t fight an insurgency. And insurgents in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. They were running around with ancient soviet era relics.

      If you subscribe to the 3.5% rule then we’ve met that threshold. They showed up at NoKings. Just needs a spark.

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      Right? How is an AR-15 going to save anyone against a drone strike? The target doesn’t even hear anything, one moment they’re alive and the next they’re not. Doesn’t even have to be an explosive, like a firearm isn’t going stop the government.

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        I highly suggest reading up on asymmetrical wars fought throughout history. It is effectively impossible for a conventional army to track down and eliminate forces that merge and move seamlessly within the citizenry. The only group that’s ever had even marginal modern success with slowing (not stopping) a guerilla threat is Israel, and that’s because they don’t give a shit about leveling civilian areas and massacring innocent women and children, and movement in/out of the extremely small geographic area of Palestine is restricted by multiple (fortified & mined) borders on every side. There is zero chance any military force, even our own, could segment and subjugate our ENTIRE country like Israel has Palestine, nor would they have anything close to local popular support to pull it off if they did.