ITT: White knights infantilizing young women because they weren’t getting laid in their teens.
Look up “age of consent map” for the USA. Next do Europe! (You likely won’t like it. Oh god, not a bit.)
My daughter will be there in a couple of very short years. She’s going to be pretty, like her mother and grandmother, and I’m scared shitless, no idea how to approach this thing. But when my wife and I talk to her about sex, we’re not going to treat her like a child. How fucking insulting.
No one can defend older guys manipulating teens, no one. But maybe show a little respect to the teen in question? Yes, they’re naive, but they’re exploring their sexuality and acting like they have zero agency until the day they turn 18? What happened to “my body, my choice”?
Getting laid in your teens is one thing, an old man having sex with a teen is a whole other thing.
Age of consent in some countries for the lowest limit comes with a max age difference between the 2. E.g in Estonia it is 14 if the older partner is max 5 years older, but otherwise it was raised to 16, because all the losers cruising around middle schools picking up their girlfriends was getting pretty damn creepy. And it was always an older guy with a young girl because for some reason women in their late 20s or 30s didn’t find 14 year old barely-legal guys particularly attractive or mature even before the raise to 16.
I’d guess it’s “always an older guy with a younger girl” because men historically had the social leeway to go around soliciting children. It ain’t often about “maturity” (because they’re assaulting children); it has to be about power. And women didn’t have the same kinds of blatant/open power men do.
So you’re cool with someone like Donald Trump fucking your teenage daughter then?
I don’t disagree that there’s no magical switch that flips at 18, but as a society, we have generally agreed that teenage sex be between teenagers. There is an imbalance of power and mastery of manipulation that comes with age when old men pursue young women.
Your logic is the first step in what we call “blaming the victim”. In reality minors often end up in bad situations, but you don’t get to blame them for older people’s actions. Be careful here.
ITT: White knights infantilizing young women because they weren’t getting laid in their teens.
Look up “age of consent map” for the USA. Next do Europe! (You likely won’t like it. Oh god, not a bit.)
My daughter will be there in a couple of very short years. She’s going to be pretty, like her mother and grandmother, and I’m scared shitless, no idea how to approach this thing. But when my wife and I talk to her about sex, we’re not going to treat her like a child. How fucking insulting.
No one can defend older guys manipulating teens, no one. But maybe show a little respect to the teen in question? Yes, they’re naive, but they’re exploring their sexuality and acting like they have zero agency until the day they turn 18? What happened to “my body, my choice”?
Holy shit, what a fucking moron.
Getting laid in your teens is one thing, an old man having sex with a teen is a whole other thing.
Age of consent in some countries for the lowest limit comes with a max age difference between the 2. E.g in Estonia it is 14 if the older partner is max 5 years older, but otherwise it was raised to 16, because all the losers cruising around middle schools picking up their girlfriends was getting pretty damn creepy. And it was always an older guy with a young girl because for some reason women in their late 20s or 30s didn’t find 14 year old barely-legal guys particularly attractive or mature even before the raise to 16.
I’d guess it’s “always an older guy with a younger girl” because men historically had the social leeway to go around soliciting children. It ain’t often about “maturity” (because they’re assaulting children); it has to be about power. And women didn’t have the same kinds of blatant/open power men do.
So you’re cool with someone like Donald Trump fucking your teenage daughter then?
I don’t disagree that there’s no magical switch that flips at 18, but as a society, we have generally agreed that teenage sex be between teenagers. There is an imbalance of power and mastery of manipulation that comes with age when old men pursue young women.
It’s wrong and you damn well know it.
Your logic is the first step in what we call “blaming the victim”. In reality minors often end up in bad situations, but you don’t get to blame them for older people’s actions. Be careful here.
What’s your point behind this comment? Let old men have sex with minors?
Romeo and Juliet loopholes are fine.
Lord Montague and Juliet loopholes are not.