The Environmental Protection Agency said on Friday that it would eliminate its scientific research arm and begin firing hundreds of chemists, biologists, toxicologists and other scientists, after denying for months that it intended to do so.

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    9 hours ago

    Well sure why would environmental scientists need science? Perhaps they’ll replace science with prayer or use of runes? Maybe reading tea leaves?

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    I wish this wasn’t relevant as often as it is. It’s bizarre how so many Americans want to destroy America, meaning the present-day USA as opposed to some fantasy with the same name. They think they’ll be able to replace it with something more to their liking but they’re going to see that what they had was actually pretty good (amazingly good!) and that fixing things is a lot harder than breaking them was.

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        Fuck that, the lost causers who fell for the southern side of the civil war has been marching this path for over a century. Putin was certainly willing to give us a push out the window but we as a country were half hanging out of it already.

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    And we’re back to cigarette companies publishing articles about smoking being healthy.

    Except with chemicals that will forever alter our lives and world.

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    Because the best way to protect the environment is without utilizing science and research. Got it. Thanks glorious leader trump! We appreciate you cutting the fat.

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      To be fair, we didn’t have these huge spikes in things like CO2 and methane until we started measuring them, so maybe if we stop looking…let’s pass around the paper bags to put our heads into collectively.

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      Nah you protect the government from absolving them of having to find legitimate data that corroborated with the special interests.

      Now they can just get the tests and data directly from industry, who will self-report.

      What could possibly go wrong. Right, Boeing?

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    At this point there will be nothing left of the government. It will have to be built from the ground up. Maybe this time we can each the rich and outlaw bribary properly.

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      That’s sort of the point. But those pulling the strings want to rebuild American government as they envision, not what was working.

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        No, why did the Dems help break everything in the name of bipartisanship instead of trying to fix anything?

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        More like, “Why did the Dems run interference for Republicans for 50+ years running?”. If you think our problem with Democrats is that they weren’t “good enough” then you have fundamentally misunderstood the arguments.

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    This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

    The science office “is the heart and brain of the E.P.A.,” said Justin Chen, president of A.F.G.E. Council 238. “Without it, we don’t have the means to assess impacts upon human health and the environment. Its destruction will devastate public health in our country.”

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      Sure, but they didn’t do it alone. If every last one of them voted for Kamala she’d still have lost. His popular vote would’ve been even worse but the electoral votes still wouldn’t have been close.

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      Thank the idiots who picked Biden over Bernie in 2020. That primary sealed America’s fate. The rest is just implementation details.

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      Or, more accurately, this is what the establishment Democrats were willing to accept to avoid having to stop supporting genocide or to embrace popular progressive policies.

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            Americans threw it. There is plenty of blame to go around, and guess what? That’s all anyone is doing now, pointing fingers at each other while the house burns down. Good job.

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              It seems to me that “Americans” are doing quite a bit to fight back. Can’t say the same for the Democrats. THAT is why I want fingers pointed in the right direction. They are still doing it.

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      I doubt china wants an environmental catastrophe any more than any of us. Though I’m sure they like that the US will severely fall back on science. It will let them dominate a lot easier

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        Lucky for them they can just sit back and watch for now. Can’t burn as many fossil fuels if you kneecap your own economy. They get to poach some of the sacked experts, too.